Showing posts with label synodality. Show all posts
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Monday, November 17, 2025

Study groups interim reports released for the Synod on Synodality

 

Round tables at the Synod of Synodality during the General Assembly in the Paul VI Hall in 2024Round tables at the Synod of Synodality during the General Assembly in the Paul VI Hall in 2024  (ANSA)

Synod: Interim reports of Study Groups published

Established by Pope Francis in March 2024, the Study Groups have delivered reports on the work carried out so far, starting from the conclusion of the Synod on Synodality. The deadline for delivering the final reports to Leo XIV has been set for 31 December. Among the topics covered are the digital mission, the role of women, ecumenism, polygamy, liturgy, the ministry of nuncios, and the selection of bishops.

By Salvatore Cernuzio

Twenty months after their establishment at the behest of Pope Francis – who wanted closer collaboration between the Dicastery of the Roman Curia and the General Secretariat of the Synod – the ten Study Groups called upon to examine the issues that emerged during the two sessions of the Synod on Synodality released their Interim Reports today, 17 November. This is a step forward after the presentation of the first reports during the second session of the assembly in October 2024.

Two new groups

The topics are varied: from mission in the digital world to ministries and women's participation in the Church; from relations between Eastern Catholic Churches and the Latin Church to the role of nuncios and the choice of bishops; from ecumenism to “controversial” doctrinal issues – better defined as “emerging” issues – such as violence against women in the context of war.

Along with the reports, the contributions of the Canon Law Commission and SECAM (Symposium of Episcopal Conferences of Africa and Madagascar) on the challenge of polygamy, as well as that of the Group on Liturgy in a Synodal Perspective, were also presented for the first time. The latter is one of two new groups desired by Pope Leo XIV in light of the Final Document, and which began work at the end of July 2025. The other is still being formed and concerns the Statutes of Episcopal Conferences, Ecclesial Assemblies, and Particular Councils.

Extension of the deadline for submitting final reports

All the Groups were asked to submit their reflections to the Pope by the end of June 2025. The death of Francis, the election of Pope Leo and the need for more time for the work made it necessary to extend the deadline. Last July, Leo XIV granted the extension and asked that the final reports be submitted to him, “as far as possible,” by 31 December 2025. “Some groups are now nearing completion of their work, while others will continue in the months ahead,” writes Cardinal Mario Grech, Secretary General of the Synod, in an accompanying note.

Relations with the Eastern Churches

The first report, on the relations between the Eastern Catholic Churches and the Latin Church, was prepared by Study Group 1, whose members were selected by the Dicastery for the Eastern Churches. A questionnaire of 25 questions, “proposals and suggestions” formulated by the Council of Catholic Patriarchs of the Middle East, and a consultation on “topics of common interest” indicated the work of Group 1 and the Preparatory Group, which focused solely on the pastoral care of Eastern faithful in the diaspora that lack a hierarchy. Among the topics that the Group intends to develop is the possible revision of the norms of Eastern Canon Law.

The cry of the poor and the earth

Four women and three men, including religious and lay people from five continents, worked in Study Group 2 on the theme of listening “to the cry of the poor and the earth”. The members contacted numerous networks and local churches, held several meetings on Zoom, and, in the report formulated so far, they brought together the suggestions of bishops, theologians, and pastoral workers.

The Group also consulted the UISG, collected over 200 contributions from women's religious institutes, and dialogued with the Office for Disability of the Australian Bishops’ Conference on the participation of persons with disabilities in the life of the Church.

The final report is currently being drafted; meanwhile, in this “feedback loop,” each member of the Group is committed to “engage with people of communities made poor or marginalized in their continent of origin.”

Mission in the digital environment

In response to the Synod’s call for synodality, Study Group 3 explored the question of the Church’s mission in the digital environment, focusing on listening to a wide range of voices: representatives of the Holy See, theologians, communication experts, and academics. Group 3 also consulted 84 Communication Offices of the Bishops’ Conferences, coordinated by the Dicastery for Communication.

The initiative “The Church Listens to You” was also launched, featuring the experiences of digital accompaniment by 1,618 digital missionaries from 67 countries with young people and those living on the margins.

The dialogue with the Pontifical Commission for the Protection of Minors, whose members highlighted ethical and protection issues in digital contexts, was also important.

To improve dynamics, three thematic working groups were established, bringing together scholars, pastoral experts, digital creators, and young people under 35 from every corner of the world. Work is now underway on the final report, which will also be updated with the results that emerged during the Jubilee of Catholic Influencers.

The revision of the Ratio on priestly formation

A long journey is outlined in the report of Study Group 4, dedicated to the Ratio Fundamentalis Institutionis Sacerdotalis, the 2016 document on priestly formation.

The perspective is that of a synodal revision of the Ratio, taking into account, however, that the Ratio is “a recent document still in the process of being received,” which “has already introduced significant innovations related to the ChurchĂ s synodal and missionary dimensions.” At the moment, Ratio Nationalis are being prepared (some have already been confirmed by the Dicastery for the Clergy, others are being drafted); therefore, a complete overhaul of the Ratio does not currently seem appropriate.”

At the same time, the report of Group 4 highlights the fact that there are “a series of needs” in the current change of era, which cannot be ignored.” Among these are the need for a formation “more deeply rooted in the lived experience of the People of God”; “joint formation moments involving lay people, consecrated persons, ordained ministers, and seminarians; and greater participation of women and families in the formation of ordained ministers.

All this leads us to consider the possibility of drafting a Preliminary Document to the Ratio Fundamentalis. This should also take into account “important encouragements” made by participants in the Synod since October 2024, including the challenges of social networks and AI and the configuration of seminaries.

The participation of women in the life of the Church

In line with the indications of the General Secretariat of the Synod, the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith – which corresponds with Group 5 – is proceeding with the drafting of the final report on the specific topic of “the participation of women in the life and leadership of the Church.” The Dicastery has collected and evaluated a “vast body” of material, and has also “actively invited the contributions of numerous women who are already significantly involved in the mission and leadership of the Church.”

More specifically, the final report will consist of a summary of the main findings and convergences on the theme of the role of women, as well as an appendix cataloguing the “substantial material” received by the Dicastery, organized into seven parts, which include the testimonies of women who participate in the leadership of the Church or work in the Roman Curia; critical tensions regarding clericalism and male chauvinism; and the contribution of Pope Francis and Pope Leo XIV concerning the role of women in the Church.

The first draft of the report was discussed with the Consultors of the Dicastery as early as July 2025. Their contribution will also be used in the second part.

With regard to the question of “women’s access to the diaconate,” an issue for which Pope Francis has “reactivated” the work of the Second Study Commission on the Female Diaconate, the interim report explains that “all synodal contributions related to this subject have been forwarded to that Commission for its consideration.”

“The Dicastery expects to deliver, without delay, the final outcome of its work in the coming months.”

Relations between bishops, consecrated life, ecclesial associations

The work of Study Group 6 was divided into three thematic subgroups that analysed the relationships between bishops and consecrated persons, the collaboration between Episcopal Conferences and Conferences of Major Superiors, and the relationships between ecclesial associations and local Churches.

Bishops, consecrated men and women, lay men and women from different geographical areas exchanged views, based on the Magisterium and direct experiences.

After dialogues, interviews, questionnaires, and discussions (not without some “challenges”), the subgroups drew up a summary report and proceeded to draft the final report. In this last stage, the Unions of Superiors General (UISG and USG) and the competent Dicasteries will also be heard.

The figure and ministry of the Bishop

The criteria for selecting candidates for the episcopate, with the participation of the bishops of the territory and the faithful; the initial and ongoing formation of bishops; the judicial function of the pastor; the nature and conduct of ad limina visits: these are the guidelines that have guided the work of Study Group 7, which has listened to about 200 individuals in recent months. The team has met monthly since the end of the second session of the Synod.

On the subject of the selection of candidates for the episcopate, the Group obtained from Pope Francis, through the then-Cardinal Robert Francis Prevost, Prefect of the Dicastery for Bishops, “the faculty to examine the confidential Instructions” sent to the Nunciatures “concerning the procedure for episcopal appointments within the territories under the jurisdiction” of the Dicastery for Bishops and the Dicastery for Evangelisation.”

During the Synod in the Vatican, the Group consulted about 80 members who formulated questions and expectations. On one occasion, an “expert in the selection of executive personnel in international companies was invited to present a report, to draw useful insights from the procedures employed in civil society.”

The presidents of the episcopates and papal representatives were then asked for their opinions through questionnaires. Laymen and women were also consulted in writing, and about 25 voluntary contributions sent to the Synod Secretariat were examined.

From this extensive consultation, the Group reached a consensus on certain perspectives; for example, that of fostering “greater investment in the formation of the People of God” and “more incisive involvement” of Bishops in local Churches.

The role of Nuncios

Study Group 8 was tasked with “examining how the ministry of Papal Representatives … can unfold in a more missionary and synodal perspective.” The mandate resulted in numerous meetings at the headquarters of the General Secretariat of the Synod in Rome or via Zoom.

First, a special meeting was convened with the presidents of the Episcopal Conferences present at the October 2024 Synod. Of the 61 present, 45 participated; others had personal interviews with members of the Group. A webinar was then organised with nuncios from around the world to discuss synodality (87 participants).

A letter signed by Cardinal Grech and Cardinal Oswald Gracias, Archbishop Emeritus of Bombay (India), was also sent to the presidents of the various episcopates, inviting them to offer suggestions regarding the ministry of nuncios. Another letter was sent to the diplomats themselves, inviting them to offer comments and suggestions. In both cases, the responses were positive and of great value.

The current phase is therefore one of elaboration, analysis, and sharing of content with the members of the Study Group. Considering the geographical distances involved, this will take some time, but it is expected that the final report will be delivered by the end of December 2025.

Areas of focus include: the selection process for candidates for Academia and their formation; assistance to members of the Diplomatic Service in their early years of service; regional meetings between nuncios; and care after retirement.

Controversial doctrinal, pastoral and ethical issues

“A conversion of thought and a transformation of practices in contextual fidelity to the Gospel of Jesus” was the starting point for the work of Study Group 9 on controversial doctrinal, pastoral, and ethical issues.

It also addressed issues that seemed more appropriate to define as “emerging” rather than controversial, such as “homosexuality, conflicts and non-violent practice of the Gospel, and violence against women in situations of armed conflict.”

The report specifies that the objective is not “to provide solutions that apply to all cases, but rather to offer reference criteria.” The horizon is the “principle of pastorality,” i.e. the logic that “to the logic whereby there can be no proclamation of the Gospel of God without recognizing and promoting the subjectivity of the other, along with an attitude of hospitality and responsibility toward the interlocutor.”

The ecumenical journey

Synodality and Christian unity are two interdependent themes. Starting from this principle, Group 10 explored the fruits of the ecumenical journey with reference to three issues: synodality and Petrine primacy; Eucharistic hospitality, with particular attention to interconfessional couples and families; the phenomenon of “non-denominational” communities and Christian-inspired “revival” movements.

After developing a theological and pastoral framework, consultations are underway with the Dicastery for Promoting Christian Unity; with ecumenical communities such as Taizé, Chemin Neuf, Focolari; and with theologians from different continents.

The goal is to draw up “practical orientations for local Churches, contributing to both the synodal shaping of the Catholic Church and the advancement of the ecumenical journey towards full visible unity.”

Liturgy in a synodal perspective

Another Study Group – commissioned, as mentioned, by the Pope – is the one on liturgy, which is presenting its work for the first time.

Coordinated by the Dicastery for Divine Worship, in collaboration with the General Secretariat of the Synod, the team will carry out its mandate starting from a reflection on the link between the Eucharistic celebration and the synodal missionary life of the Church.

Among the topics under consideration is how to promote “in particular the recognition of the role of women, especially where they continue to suffer forms of discrimination, including through the highlighting in the liturgical lectionaries of scriptural testimonies about the role of women in the history of salvation.”

Canon Law Commission

In addition to the interim reports of the ten Study Groups, there is also that of the Canon Law Commission, established during the first Session of the Synod in 2023. Since then, the Commission has met eight times and addressed the themes of laity/women; Episcopal Conferences/Particular Councils; and participatory bodies. The possibility of revisions to the current legislation is being evaluated.

Polygamy

On the issue of polygamy, the Church in Africa has set up a group of experts within SECAM. Twelve specialists from islands and regions, experts in canon law, anthropology, biblical studies, and pastoral care, are reflecting on how “to promote theological and pastoral discernment regarding polygamy and to accompany persons in polygamous unions who are coming to the faith.”

The methodology adopted has been developed in three stages: “listening, appreciating, and engaging.”

The central questions are: “What pastoral care is appropriate for those found in polygamous relationships according to the Gospel? What pastoral initiatives can support Christians in embracing monogamous marriage?”

The group also drew up a preliminary document shared with the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith, which gave “encouraging feedback” along with “specific considerations to be addressed.” The text is therefore undergoing further revision and, for this reason, has not been sent to the national Episcopal Conferences. However, it was presented and discussed by bishops and theologians during the SECAM plenary meeting in Kigali (Rwanda) last summer.

Read the full text of the Interim Reports of the Study Groups at the website of the Synod.

Friday, October 31, 2025

Pope Leo XIV spends time with the International Youth Advisory Body encouraging them to live their faith in community

 

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Pope to young people: in the social media age, do not live your faith in isolation

Pope Leo XIV speaks extemporaneously, in English, with members of the International Youth Advisory Body. In prepared remarks consigned to the young people. the Holy Father encouraged them to focus on synodality, mission, and participation, in order to counter isolation and help the Church reach out to those in need.

By Isabella H. de Carvalho

In prepared remarks consigned to members of the International Youth Advisory Body (IYAB), Pope Leo encourages young people to focus on synodality, mission, and participation in order to counter isolation, be close to Christ, and help the Church reach out to those on the margins.

The Holy Father on Friday chose to speak extemporaneously with IYAB, a body linked to the Dicastery for the Laity, the Family and Life that aims to bring the perspective of young people to the Holy See on various issues central to the Church’s mission. Since Tuesday, the IYAB has been meeting in Rome to reflect on topics that affect young Catholics, with the three themes of synodality, mission, and participation as the focus of their discussions.

In his prepared remarks, Pope Leo writes to the members of IYAB, “You represent many of your peers, and through you, they also can ‘speak’ to the Church.” He assured them,  “Your voice is heard and taken seriously. Your presence and contribution are invaluable.”

In the social media age, do not live your faith in isolation

Pope Leo emphasized that for young people, “the synodal Church” can be “a challenge, a catalyst”, as “it encourages them not to live their faith in isolation”, especially in the social media and digital age.

He recognized that “in recent years, many young people have approached the faith through social media, successful programs, and popular online Christian witnesses.”

However, he warned that “the danger” with this “is that a faith discovered online is limited to individual experiences, which may be intellectually and emotionally reassuring, but are never ‘embodied’.” This means it remains “detached from the ‘ecclesial body’” and not “lived alongside others in real-life situations, relationships or sharing.”

“All too often, social media algorithms merely create a sounding board for individuals, picking up on personal preferences and tastes, and ‘sending them back’ magnified and enriched with appealing proposals,” he continued. “Yet, everyone remains alone with themselves, prisoners of their own inclinations and projections”.

For the Pope, the antidote to this danger can be “experiences of lived synodality” which help “overcome the barriers of the self and encourage young people to become effective members of the family of Jesus Christ”.

Help the Church hear the voice of the weak and the poor

The Pope also pointed out that young people in a synodal Church are also “called to speak on behalf of their peers,” especially “the weak, the poor, and the lonely, refugees and those who struggle to integrate into society, or to access educational opportunities.”

“All too often, these voices are drowned out by the noise of the powerful, the successful and those who live in ‘exclusive’ realities,” he reflected.  

A synodal Church wants “to listen to what the Holy Spirit says to young people” and “welcome their charisms, the gifts that are specific to their age and their sensibilities,” the Pope insisted.

Synodality, he added, helps show that, “in the image of the Holy Trinity, the Church is also a communion of persons, of the faithful of every age, language, and nationality, who journey together, enriching one another and sharing their spiritual gifts.”

Look beyond appearances, be leaders of creativity and courage

The Pope then highlighted how “authentic synodality” is guided by the Holy Spirit and thus it “leads to mission.” “It is not a question of the rules governing meetings. Instead, it is about making room for God’s action by listening to the Spirit,” he wrote, adding that the Holy Spirit always leads to “Jesus, who is the Truth.”

In order to discern, “in every age, how to bring the Gospel to everyone”, Pope Leo encouraged young people to “have open hearts, ready to listen both to the ‘inspirations’ of the Spirit and the deep ‘aspirations’ of each person.”

“You must look beyond appearances in order to seek the true answers that give meaning to life,” he emphasized. “You must have hearts that are open to God’s call and not engrossed in your own plans, and are willing to understand and sympathize before forming judgements”.

“The concept of mission also entails freedom from fear, because the Lord loves to call us to forge new paths,” he continued, urging young people to be “leaders of creativity and courage.”

Participation in the Church comes from spirituality, not ideology or politics

The Pope thanked the group of young people for their work, “which will provide new energy and momentum to the missionary heart of the Church.” He pointed out that the IYAB is part of a wider spiritual youth movement, which includes World Youth Day and regular youth ministries, and thus “keeps the Church forever young.”

In this regard, Pope Leo XIV stressed the importance for this group of young people to, “above all,” recognize that they are participating in the life and universal mission of the Church, directed at men and women all over the world.

“Where does authentic ecclesial participation come from? I would say that it stems from being close to the Heart of Christ. Its origin, then, is spiritual, not ideological or political,” he wrote.

The Pope in fact urged the members of IYAB, to look upon the young people of our time and their “hopes, dreams, and difficulties” with “Christ’s same compassion and try to envisage how the Church, inspired by faith, can go out to meet them.”

Be concerned for the suffering of others 

He explained how, in the Gospel, Christ looks beyond “the small circle of disciples in front of Him”, as He desires that His message of salvation, unity of faith, and mutual love should reach “all people, including those who are far away and those who will come in the future.”

“The Lord always carries the whole world in His heart.  This is the source of participation,” the Pope continued.

He thus invited the young people to become Jesus’ “friends through prayer, the Sacraments, and daily life” in order to “begin to feel as He feels”. This means to be “concerned for, and touched by, the suffering of others, their needs and aspirations” and it gives “rise to the desire to participate, to be part of the Church’s universal mission”.

“This involvement is also a sign of human and spiritual maturity,” he wrote. “While children are only concerned with their own needs, mature persons know how to share the problems of others and make them their own,” Pope Leo continued, encouraging the group of young people to “immerse” themselves in Christ.

Monday, October 27, 2025

Pope Leo XIV meets with Patriarch of the Assyrian Church ahead of the anniversary of the Council of Nicaea and promoting synodality

 

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Pope: ‘Synodality presents itself as a promising path forward’

Pope Leo addresses the Catholicos Patriarch of the Assyrian Church of the East and the Members of the Joint Commission for the Theological Dialogue between the Catholic Church and the Assyrian Church of the East. In his discourse, he praises the progress the two Churches have made on their path of dialogue.

By Kielce Gussie

Pope Leo XIV welcomed His Holiness Mar Awa III, the Catholicos Patriarch of the Assyrian Church of the East and the Members of the Joint Commission for the Theological Dialogue between the Catholic Church and the Assyrian Church of the East to the Vatican on Monday.

Speaking with them, the Holy Father explained how the combined visits of the Catholicos Patriarch and the Commission members “bear witness to the face that fraternal encounter and theological dialogue are mutually constitutive elements on the path toward unity.”

Pope Leo stressed that the “dialogue of truth” is an expression of “the love that already unites our Churches, while the ‘dialogue of charity’ must also be understood theologically.”

A time of growth

To mark the 30th anniversary of the official dialogue between the two Churches, the Catholicos Patriarch made a visit to Rome in 2024. Pope Leo highlighted that “the progress made over these years is significant, having faithfully followed the mandate and methodology established by our predecessors.”

Referencing the 1994 Joint Declaration of Pope John Paul II and His Holiness Mar Dinkha IV, the Holy Father reiterated how “communion presupposes unanimity concerning the content of the faith, the sacraments, and the constitution of the Church.”

This three-sided description created the framework for the next steps in the theological dialogue between the two Churches. The 1994 document helped resolve a 1,500-year-old controversy, which in turn advanced the dialogue between the two “mutual recognition of sacraments, enabling a certain communicatio in sacris between our Churches.”

Pope Leo expressed his gratitude to the theologians in the Joint Commission for their dedication and work to helping reach these agreements.

A new focus

Now, the Pope said, the focus of the dialogue between the two Churches is the constitution of the Church. Here, the Holy Father pointed out that “the principal challenge lies in jointly developing a model of full communion, inspired by the first millennium, while thoughtfully responding to the challenges of our time.”

Yet, as his predecessors have argued, Pope Leo agreed this will not be achieved by “absorption or domination”. Rather, the model should encourage a sharing of gifts among the two Churches.

He stressed that “on this journey towards full communion, synodality presents itself as a promising path forward.” The Holy Father continued, reflecting on Pope Francis’ words in the Final Document of the Synod on Synodality: “The journey of synodality undertaken by the Catholic Church is and must be ecumenical, just as the ecumenical journey is synodal”.

With the spirit of the Synod in mind, Pope Leo expressed his hope that the 1700th anniversary of the Council of Nicaea will help concretely apply forms of synodality among all Christians and “inspire us with new ‘ecumenical synodal practices’.”

Closing, the Pope asked for the intercession of all the saints of both Churches, especially Saint Isaac of Nineveh, on this pilgrimage of dialogue. Through their intercession, Pope Leo prayed that the Christians in the Middle East always bear faithful witness to Christ, and he asked that "our dialogue hasten the blessed day when we will celebrate together at the same altar, sharing in the same Body and Blood of our Saviour, 'so that the world may believe' (Jn 17:21)



Thursday, September 18, 2025

Leo XIV: Citizen of the World, Missionary of the 21st Century

 

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Pope Leo sees role as one of building bridges, avoiding polarization

A new biography of Pope Leo, “Leo XIV: Citizen of the World, Missionary of the 21st Century,” contains the full text of the interview granted by the Holy Father to Elise Ann Allen, covering a wide range of topics, including the tragedy of Gaza, the Church’s policy on China, the role of women, the Church’s welcome of those who identify as LGBTQ+, the clerical abuse crisis, the financial situation of the Holy See, artificial intelligence, and fake news.

By Salvatore Cernuzio

In his first full interview since his election, Pope Leo responded to questions on topics as diverse as the quest for peace in Ukraine and “terrible situation in Gaza”; to the role of women in the Church and the Church’s relationship with the LGBTQ+ community; to the clerical abuse and the reform of the Roman Curia.

The interview was granted to Elise Ann Allen for her biography of the Holy Father, LeĂłn XIV: ciudadano del mundo, misionero del siglo XXI (“Leo XIV: Citizen of the World, Missionary of the XXI Century”), which published Thursday with Penguin Peru. Allen is a senior correspondent for CruxNow.com, an independent online Catholic news site, which published the full text of the interview with Pope Leo in a series of articles also released on Thursday.

The role of the papacy

Asked about how he sees the papacy, Pope Leo highlighted the “pastoral part” of his new role, especially the “outreach to people of all ages.” “I appreciate everyone, whoever they are, what they come with, and I listen to them… So, there’s an aspect of being pastor of the universal Church that I think is very significant, and I think one of the things people appreciate is that,” he said.

He said does not feel overwhelmed by the decisions that will need to be taken in the coming months and years, while acknowledging that internal Church governance is a big part of his role as pope.

What is new, he said, is his role as a world leader. “I’m learning a lot about how the Holy See has had a role in the diplomatic world for many years,” he said. “I’ve always tried to stay up on the news, but the role of pope is certainly new to me.” Here, too, he said, “I’m learning a lot and feeling very challenged, but not overwhelmed.

The tragedy of Gaza

One of the first questions for the Pope concerned the situation in Gaza. Even though there has been some pressure on Israel from the United States, and despite some “very clear statements” recently from President Trump, the Pope said, “there has not been a clear response in terms of finding effective ways to alleviate the suffering of the people, the innocent people in Gaza, and that is obviously of great concern.”

The Pope highlighted the needs of Gazans, and especially the children of the enclave. “They're going to need a lot of help, medical assistance as well as humanitarian aid to really turn that situation around, and right now it still looks very, very grave,” he said. “It’s just so horrible to see the images that we see on television, hopefully something will turn this around.”

Pope Leo worried aloud about growing numb to the pain. “That’s a sort of a human response,” he said, “because you can only stand so much pain.” Human beings, and especially Christians, must not grow numb and must not ignore the situation, he said. Instead, “somehow, we have to continue to push, to try and make a change here.”

The word “genocide”

Concerning the use of the word “genocide” with regard to the tragedy of Gaza, which is “being thrown around more and more,” the Pope emphasized that “officially, the Holy See does not believe that we can make any declaration at this time about that.”

He explained, “There's a very technical definition about what genocide might be, but more and more people are raising the issue, including two human rights groups in Israel have made that statement.”

Relations with China

Staying in the realm of geopolitics, Pope Leo was also asked about “another global actor,” China. He said that “in the short term, I will continue the policy that the Holy See has followed for some years now,” adding that he “in no way” pretends “to be wiser or more experienced” than his predecessors.

For some time now, he said, he has been “in ongoing dialogue” a number of Chinese people with various perspectives, and he is trying “to get a clearer understanding of how the Church can continue the Church’s mission, respecting both culture and the political issues,” while also “respecting a significant group of Chinese Catholics who for many years have lived some kind of oppression or difficulty in living their faith freely, and without taking sides.”

At the same time, he admits, “It’s a very difficult situation.”


U.S. politics

Asked about the significance, “on the geopolitical level,” of being the first Pope from the United States, Pope Leo responded by saying, “First of all, I hope that it will make a difference eventually with the bishops of the United States.”

With regard to “some of the things that have been said” about the U.S. episcopate and the relationship between the Church and politics,” the Pope said, “The fact that I am American means, among other things, that people cannot say, as they did with Francis, ‘he does not understand the United States, he simply does not see what is happening.’”

However, Pope Leo stated clearly, “I don’t plan to get involved in partisan politics.”

With regard to the relationship with President Donald Trump, the Pope expressed his opinion that “it would be much more appropriate for the leadership in the Church within the United States to engage him, quite seriously.” However, he said, “if or when there were specific issues” where it was possible to engage with Trump, “I would have no problem doing so.”

Pope Leo mentioned, as an example, Francis’ letter, issued near the end of his pontificate about the treatment of migrants, saying, “I was very happy to see how the American bishops picked that up, and some of them were courageous enough to go with that.” He explained, “I think that approach, in general, is a better approach, that I would engage with the bishops primarily.”

He later acknowledged that “the United States is a power player on the world level,” and said, “we have to recognize that, and sometimes decisions are made more based on economics than on human dignity and human support, but [we have to] continue to challenge and to raise some questions” to determine the “best way” to respond.

The Pope noted that Trump himself had recently stated that a meeting between the two was not on the agenda, but added, “his brother’s a nice guy” – a reference to Pope Leo’s older brother Louis, who was received in the Oval Office a few days after the Conclave. “One of my brothers has met him and has been very open about his political viewpoints,” Pope Leo confirmed.

Later in the interview, he speaks about his brother again, when describing his relationship with his family. He said he and his brothers, Louis and John, “are still very close, even though one is far on one end politically, we’re in different places.”

The abuse crisis in the Church

A large part of the conversation is dedicated to the “crisis” of clerical sexual abuse in the Church. Pope Leo acknowledged that it is a “real crisis,” saying “victims must be treated with great respect and with an understanding that those who have suffered very deep wounds because of abuse, sometimes carry those wounds for their entire life.

Pope Leo cites statistics showing that “over 90% of people who come forward and make accusations” are “authentic victims.” In other words, they do not make things up.

However, he said, “there have also been proven cases of some kind of false accusations,” and some priests have had their lives “destroyed because of that.” An accusation “does not take away the presumption of innocence,” the Pope insisted, adding, “So, priests have to be protected, or the accused person has to be protected, their rights have to be respected.” Still, he recognized, “even saying that at times is cause of greater pain for the victims.”

In any case, he continued, citing the “very good insight” of Francis, “the issue of sexual abuse cannot become the centre focus of the Church.” After noting that the “vast majority” of people committed to the Church have never abused anyone, he continued, “We can’t make the whole Church focus exclusively on this issue, because that would not be an authentic response to what the world is looking for in terms of the need for the mission of the Church.”

The Church’s approach to the LGBTQ+ community

The Pope was also asked about two of the “hot-botton” issues that arose in the Synod on Synodality: the role of women in the Church’s approach to the LGBTQ+ community.

With regard to the latter, Pope Leo explained that he does not have “a plan at the moment,” but added that he does not want “to continue to polarize or promote polarization in the Church.”

Pope Leo said he embraces Francis’ message of welcome to all, “todos, todos, todos.” “Everyone’s invited in,” he said, “but I don’t invite a person in because they are or are not of any specific identity. I invite a person in because they are a son or daughter of God. You’re all welcome, and let’s get to know one another and respect one another.”

Referring to the the Declaration Fiducia supplicans: On the pastoral meaning of blessings, Pope Leo emphasized that the document “basically says, of course we can bless all people, but it doesn’t look for a way of ritualizing some kind of blessing because that’s not what the Church teaches.”

He acknowledges that some people “want the Church doctrine to change, want attitudes to change.” However, he said, “I find it highly unlikely, certainly in the near future, that the church's doctrine in terms of what the church teaches about sexuality, what the Church teaches about marriage, [will change].”

Pope Leo notes that he has already spoken about marriage, “as did Pope Francis when he was pope, about a family being a man and a woman in solemn commitment, blessed in the sacrament of marriage.”

The role of women in the Church

Nor does he think the Magisterium will change the Church’s position on the ordination of women. Specifically with regard to the possibility of ordaining women as deacons, the said, “I, at the moment, don’t have an intention of changing the teaching of the Church on the topic.”

At the same time, Pope Leo said, “I hope to continue in the footsteps of Francis, including in appointing women to some leadership roles at different levels in the Church's life, recognizing the gifts that women have that can contribute to the life of the Church in many ways.”

The financial situation of the Holy See

Concerning the financial situation of the Holy See, Pope Leo said, “I don’t know how I’m going to handle it yet, but I’m getting some clear ideas.”

He points to several specific issues, including the 60 million euro profit reported by the Administration of the Patrimony of the Apostolic See (APSA) in their 2024 financial report.” At the same time, he noted concerns about the pension fund for Vatican employees (“that must be looked at”) and how the Covid crisis affected the Vatican Museums, “one of the most significant sources of income for the Vatican.”

Pope Leo warned, however, that “we must avoid the kinds of wrong choices that were made in recent years,” mentioning the purchase of a building in London that became the centre of a court case that attracted “great publicity.” “How many millions were lost because of that!” the Pope lamented.

At the same time, he noted the “significant steps” already taken during Francis’s pontificate to impose a new system of checks and balances. However, he added, “I’m not saying we can relax and say the crisis is over. I don't think the crisis is over, I think we have to continue to work on this, but I'm not losing sleep over it, and I think that it's important that we communicate a different message.

Curia reforms

On the topic of the reform of the Roman Curia, Pope Leo noted that, “as in any human organization, there are positive things and there are things that need to be improved,” highlighting in particular the importance of “continuing to break down or transform the isolated manner in which each dicastery works.” He expressed concern about a kind of “silo mentality,” which at times has led to a lack of dialogue and communication, and has sometimes been a “great limitation and harm for the governance of the Church.”

The Latin Mass

Pope Leo also responded to the question of the “Traditional Latin Mass,” saying “part of that issue, unfortunately, has become – again, part of a process of polarization – people have used the liturgy as an excuse for advancing other topics. It’s become a political tool, and that’s very unfortunate.”

He acknowledged that he has not yet been able “to really sit down with a group of people who are advocating for the Tridentine Rite,” but said, “there’s an opportunity coming up soon, and I’m sure there will be occasions for that.” He added, “But that is an issue that I think also, maybe with synodality, we have to sit down and talk about.”

Fake news and Artificial Intelligence

Beyond the ecclesial sphere, the interview with Pope Leo also addressed issues including the prevalence of “fake news”, which he calls “destructive;” and the issue of artificial intelligence.

Concerning the latter, the Holy Father worried about “extremely rich people who are investing in artificial intelligence” while “totally ignoring the value of human beings and of humanity.”

“I think the Church has to speak up there,” he said, in which “extremely wealthy people” are investing, while completely ignoring “the value of human beings.” “If the Church doesn't speak up, or if someone doesn't speak up about that – but the Church certainly needs to be one of the voices here – the danger is that the digital world will go on its own way and we will become pawns, or left by the wayside.”

Asked about the problems of so called “deep fakes,” Pope Leo recalled being asked for permission to create an “artificial Pope” so that anyone could have a personal audience with the pontiff. “I said: ‘I’m not going to authorize that,’” and added, “If there’s anybody who should not be represented by an avatar, I would say the Pope is high on the list.”

Vatican News - English Section staff reporters contributed to this report. The full text of the interview, broken up into several articles, can be found on the Crux website, www.cruxnow.com.