Thursday, January 30, 2025

Bishop of Austin concerned about new immigration enforcement

 Bishop of Catholic Diocese of Austin Urges Compassion Amid Texas ICE Raids

The Diocese of Austin oversees Central Texas, including Waco

WACO, Texas (KWTX) - Bishop Joe S. Vásquez, fifth bishop of the Diocese of Austin, home to more than 700,000 Catholics across 25 counties in Central Texas, is speaking out in defense of the dignity of humanity, urging caution in immigration enforcement.

According to a Texas Tribune report, federal agencies, including U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), the FBI, and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, conducted coordinated immigration enforcement operations on Sunday in Austin and San Antonio.

A similar operation occurred in the Rio Grande Valley.

We understand that ICE has been instructed to focus on the deportation of individuals who pose a security risk to the United States. This includes those who are currently incarcerated or are otherwise involved in criminal activities that threaten public safety. At the same time, it is painful to see migrants, seeking refuge to raise their children in a safe environment, distressed with anxiety because of the news and information they hear,” Bishop Vásquez stated.

An ICE spokesperson described these assignments as “enhanced targeted operations” aimed at enforcing U.S. immigration law, ensuring public safety, and preventing potentially dangerous individuals from remaining in communities.

The operations occurred just days after President Trump’s second term began, accompanied by the announcement of mass deportations and several immigration-related executive orders.

These operations are part of a broader crackdown that has led to fear and uncertainty among migrant communities, especially in Texas, which is home to about 1.6 million undocumented people, according to a Pew Research Center Report.

We call all to exercise caution so that hardworking migrant mothers and fathers are not wrongfully caught up in enforcement efforts. We must never treat people as political pawns, but rather, as human beings deserving of our compassion and care,” Bishop Vásquez said.

Catholic clergy and religious are ramping up opposition to Trump immigration policies

 As mass deportations ramp up, Catholic clergy and religious rally for immigrants


A participant holds a sign during a Jan. 25, 2025, interfaith rally in support of immigrants at Love Park in downtown Philadelphia. (OSV News photo/Gina Christian)


PHILADELPHIA (OSV News) — Clergy and religious continue to speak out against the Trump administration’s orders to carry out mass deportation operations and allow for immigration arrests in houses of worship, schools and other locations formerly designated as “sensitive.”

“I think we’re beginning to witness the fear and great concern for people who are vulnerable among us — wonderful, wonderful people who are making our country great,” Sister Eileen Marnien, president of the Sisters of St. Joseph of Philadelphia, told OSV News.

Sister Eileen joined fellow women religious, clergy and immigrant advocates at a Jan. 25 interfaith rally in the heart of Philadelphia, urging Mayor Cherelle Parker’s administration to uphold Philadelphia’s commitment to remaining a “sanctuary city” — a designation for municipalities that limit their cooperation with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, or ICE.

Currently, hundreds of U.S. cities, along with some dozen states, have adopted sanctuary policies. In contrast, a number of states — including Alabama, Georgia, Florida, Iowa, Tennessee, Texas and West Virginia — have enacted laws forbidding such policies.

City’s Iconic LOVE Sculpture

At the Philadelphia rally, participants shrouded the city’s iconic LOVE sculpture, created by artist Robert Indiana, to symbolize how “love gets covered up” by hardline immigration policies.

“We feel it’s our responsibility as members of the Catholic faith, and as Sisters of St. Joseph … to stand with those who live on the margins,” said Sister Eileen.

Joining her at the rally were fellow congregation members and staff from the order’s Welcome Center, which since 2003 has provided literacy, citizenship classes and, with the approval of the U.S. Department of Justice, immigration legal services. So far, the center has helped 358 immigrants to become naturalized U.S. citizens.

“We’ve watched people move on to become educated and hold wonderful positions in which they are thriving,” said Sister Eileen.

“Scripture is filled with messages of welcoming the stranger, of greeting all with welcome and generosity and mercy,” she said, pointing to the number of Scripture verses displayed on posters at the rally.

Echoing that perspective was Peter Pedemonti, founding member and co-director of New Sanctuary Movement of Philadelphia, which organized the Jan. 25 rally.

“I felt like everybody was coming together, beginning in prayer and being with the Sisters of St Joseph, Catholic priests, laypeople, rabbis and pastors of different religions,” Pedemonti told OSV News in a Jan. 27 phone call. 

‘I Felt a Lot of Hope’

“I felt a lot of hope, knowing that as Catholics, we will all come together and keep moving God’s love into the streets, into Mayor Parker’s (office), until it softens the heart of (Donald) Trump,” he said. 

Also on hand at the rally was retired Philadelphia priest Msgr. Hugh Joseph Shields, the son of Irish immigrants, a longtime minister to various immigrant communities and a former missionary priest to South America, and Father Markus Hermawan, chaplain of the Archdiocese of Philadelphia’s Indonesian Catholic community.

“Most of them think about their future, how they can live, how their life can be better, and they put much hope in this country they thought was a great nation for them,” Father Hermawan said about migrants in the Indonesian Catholic community. “Most of them are in fear now.”

Both he and Msgr. Shields predicted a noticeable drop in church attendance among immigrant communities as immigration arrests rolled out.

“When that starts to hit people’s minds … then they’re going to be more and more afraid,” said Msgr. Shields. “Because the church isn’t safe any longer.”

Immigration Enforcement Raids

As immigration enforcement raids are being launched across the country, Father Michael Pfleger of St. Sabina Parish in Chicago — home to a historic Black Catholic community and a parish that serves Haitian and Venezuelan immigrant communities — told OSV News he has taken precautionary measures.

Those steps include signage on all parish buildings, in English and Spanish, advising agents from ICE and from Customs and Border Patrol, or CBP, that they “do not have consent to enter this household unless they have a valid judicial warrant.”

In addition, said Father Pfleger, “if they have a court order, at least in our church services … we will surround them (the person to be detained) in a circle, and they will have to arrest us if they’re going to come for them.”

Catholic social teaching on immigration balances three interrelated principles — the right of persons to migrate in order to sustain their lives and those of their families, the right of a country to regulate its borders and control immigration, and a nation’s duty to regulate its borders with justice and mercy. 

U.S. Mass Deportation a ‘Disgrace’

When it comes to mass deportation, the Catholic bishops have been vocal in their opposition. Pope Francis has condemned U.S. mass deportation plans as a “disgrace.” The incoming Washington archbishop, Cardinal Robert W. McElroy, called mass deportation “incompatible with Catholic doctrine.” The Colorado Catholic bishops condemned the federal government’s “open border policy” while also declaring, “Mass deportation is not the solution to our present situation in the United States, especially when it may separate parents and children.”

A reference point for the bishops’ teaching against mass deportation can be found in St. John Paul II’s 1993 encyclical “Veritatis Splendor” (“Splendor of Truth”) and 1995 encyclical “Evangelium Vitae” (“The Gospel of Life”). Both quote the Second Vatican Council’s teaching in “Gaudium et Spes,” the Pastoral Constitution on the Church in the Modern World, which names “deportation” among various specific acts “offensive to human dignity” that “are a disgrace, and so long as they infect human civilization they contaminate those who inflict them more than those who suffer injustice, and they are a negation of the honor due to the Creator.”

Sources told The Wall Street Journal that ICE agency offices have been given a target quota of 75 arrests per day — between 1,000-1,500 arrests daily nationwide — with employees being told they will face consequences for poor performance. 

Nearly 1,200 Arrests Jan. 26

ICE made nearly 1,200 arrests Jan. 26, nearly half of whom had no criminal records. While 613 unauthorized immigrants had criminal histories, the other 566 did not. Unauthorized presence in the U.S. is typically treated as a civil, not criminal, offense under U.S. law. However, illegal entry, or unlawfully entering the U.S., can be prosecuted as a misdemeanor offense, while illegal reentry can be prosecuted as a felony.

Among those arrested Jan. 26 was Honduran immigrant Wilson Rogelio Velásquez Cruz, who was attending Sunday services at Iglesia Fuente de Vida, a Christian church located in Tucker, Georgia, some 22 miles northeast of Atlanta. 

Pastor Luis Ortiz told local media that agents waited outside, since the church’s security system — installed in anticipation of raids — requires an access code.

‘Inexplicable’ Arrest

Ortiz told media that the agents asked for Velásquez Cruz by name and did not show a  warrant. He described the arrest as “inexplicable.”

“He has a shackle, but he also has his permit, his ID, his Social Security and everything in order,” said Ortiz.

Father Pfleger told OSV News that he was deeply concerned about the trajectory of the nation. He said faith communities, who “are supposed to be a conscience to this country,” need to “rise up loud and clear and strong now” to advocate for both migrants and human rights as a whole.

“There’s no time to wait,” he said.

Pope Francis gives powerful and sound advice to seminarians and formators

 

Pope Francis meets with seminarians from Valencia, Orihuela-Alicante, Segorbe-Castellon, Mallorca, Menorca and IbizaPope Francis meets with seminarians from Valencia, Orihuela-Alicante, Segorbe-Castellon, Mallorca, Menorca and Ibiza  (Vatican Media)

Pope: Priests should be ‘shaped’ by people’s pain

Pope Francis meets with seminarians and formators of several Spanish dioceses, and urges future priests to allow themselves to be shaped by the pain of those they serve.

By Devin Watkins

In late October 2024, torrential rains flooded the Spanish city of Valencia, killing around 230 people and causing massive property damage.

Thousands of volunteers and nonprofit organizations mobilized to assist those affected by one of Spain’s deadliest natural disasters.

On Thursday, three months later, Pope Francis met with the seminarians, formators, and bishops of the Archdiocese of Valencia, along with several other Spanish dioceses, for an audience in the Vatican.

“The storm was not just an atypical phenomenon that we merely hope will not happen again,” he told them. “It is the extrapolation of what every human being experiences when faced with loss, feeling alone, displaced, and in need of support to move forward.”

The Pope said the role of priests is to “bind up the brokenhearted” and provide spiritual support for people amid the large and small disasters of daily life.

He admitted that he found it difficult to express his feelings when thinking about the pain Valencia residents experienced as they celebrated Christmas in the wake of the floods.

“Yours is a pain and mourning that, despite its harshness, opens us to hope, for in forcing us to reach rock bottom and leave behind everything that seemed to sustain us, it allows us to go beyond,” he said.

People cannot be left alone to face the darkness, urged the Pope. Rather, he said, the work of so many volunteers and the Catholic Church after the storm were expressions of God’s tenderness.

Pope Francis pointed out that “hope is not optimism,” which is merely a superficial attitude, while hope calls us to move beyond empty phrases to search for deeper meaning.

“Our hope has a name—Jesus—God who was not disgusted by our clay and who, instead of saving us from the clay, became clay for us.”

Each priest, he added, is called to become an alter Christus, another Christ by becoming “clay in the weeping of the people.”

“When you see broken people—because in Valencia there are broken people who have lost their lives in pieces—give them pieces, fragments, of yourselves, just as Christ does in the Eucharist,” he said.

In conclusion, Pope Francis invited the future priests of Valencia to give of themselves freely, just as they have received everything freely.

Pope Francis sends prayers and condolences for victims of Washington DC plane crash

 

Rescue operations in the River PotomacRescue operations in the River Potomac  (AFP or licensors)

Pope prays for victims of plane crash over Washington DC

Pope Francis expresses closeness and grief for the victims and families of those who lost their lives in a plane crash over Washington DC’s Potomac River.

By Linda Bordoni

Pope Francis on Thursday expressed his spiritual closeness to all those affected by a plane and helicopter crash in which dozens of people died.

No one is believed to have survived the incident after an American Airlines flight and a military helicopter collided in mid-air near Ronald Regan National Airport.

Sixty-four people were on the plane and three on the helicopter. So far more than 30 bodies have been recovered, and no one is believed to have survived.

In a telegram addressed to President Donald Trump, the Pope said he commends “the souls of the deceased to the loving mercy of Almighty God and offers his deepest sympathies to the families who are now mourning the loss of a loved one.”

He also affirmed he is praying “for those involved in the recovery efforts and invokes upon all in the nation the divine blessings of consolation and strength.

The tragedy

The District of Columbia fire chief coordinating recovery operations said work was ongoing after Wednesday night’s crash “to find all the bodies and reunite them with their loved ones.”

Passengers on the flight included ice skaters, family and coaches returning from events in Wichita, Kansas, including two Russian-born former world champions.

Emergency responders worked through the night and reported that a dive team had recovered one of the two data recorders, the so-called black boxes, from the plane.

The midair collision occurred as the passenger jet flying from Wichita was approaching to land at Reagan. Radio communications between the air traffic control tower and the Black Hawk showed the helicopter crew knew the plane was in the vicinity.

Diocese of Arlington asks for prayers

In a post on X, Bishop Francis Burbridge of the Catholic Diocese of Arlington – which borders Washington - asks that “We may be united in prayer for all those tragically impacted by the accident near Reagan Airport: We ask God to embrace them in his love, to grant strength to their families, and to watch over all first responses.”  

Wednesday, January 29, 2025

Saint of the Day for Thursday

 

St. Mutien-Marie Wiaux


Feastday: January 30
Birth: 1841
Death: 1917
Canonized: Pope John Paul II



Christian Brother praised as a model teacher. He was born the son of a blacksmith in Mellet, Belgium, in 1841. Entering the Christian Brothers, he changed his baptismal name, Louis, to Mutien. In 1859 he was assigned to St. Bertuin’s School in Maloone, where he taught for fifty-eight years. Mutien specialized in art and music. He was canonized in 1989 by Pope John Paul II.

 

Cardinal Dolan disappointed in J.D. Vance's comments about the USCCB

 

Cardinal Dolan Blasts JD Vance’s Jab At U.S. Catholic Bishops’ Immigration Stance: ‘That’s Just Scurrilous. It’s Very Nasty’

Story by Alex Griffing
 


Cardinal Timothy Dolan of the Archdiocese of New York discussed on Tuesday Vice President JD Vance’s comments on Sunday’s Face the Nation, in which he blasted the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops over their condemnation of President Donald Trump’s mass deportation plans.


Speaking on his weekly SiriusXM show, Conversation with Cardinal Dolan, the Catholic leader said, “I was really disappointed with what he said on Face the Nation the other day. And I don’t mind telling you, somewhat hurt. This was not only harmful, this was inaccurate.”

“You heard what he said, ‘Oh, the bishops, they’re pro-immigrant because of the bottom line. Because they’re making money off this.’ That’s just scurrilous. It’s very nasty. And it’s not true. You want to come look at our audits, which are scrupulously done? You think we make money caring for the immigrants? We’re losing it hand over fist,” Dolan added, continuing:

Thanks to our generous benefactors. You think we make money on our schools? He’s a strong supporter of our schools. Thank you, Mr. Vice President. No, you think we make money on our healthcare?

No, we’re not in a moneymaking business. And for him to imply that the motive in caring for the immigrant, which by the way the government asks us to do. Mayor Adams asked us to do it, Governor Hochul asked us to do it. The federal government asked us to do it. We need your help in caring for the immigrant.

By the way, here’s some of the money we’ve set aside because you guys use it frugally, and you account for every penny. Like, we’re looking for this work? So I was – a guy who has struck me as a gentleman and a thoughtful man, and from whom I’m still expecting great things. I hope it was an uncharacteristic moment.

The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops took particular issue with the Trump administration revoking a longheld policy of not using U.S. immigration agents to arrest migrants in Churchs, schools, or places of worship.

Mark. J Seitz, migration committee chairman U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, told CBS News that “Many of these policies we see going against the basic tenets of our faith.”

Vance referenced his own faith while slamming the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, saying, “Because as a practicing Catholic, I was actually heartbroken by that statement.”

Pope Francis at today's Wednesday General Audience 01.29.2025

 

Pope at Audience: Let's imitate St. Joseph's holy example and faith

During his weekly General Audience, Pope Francis reflects on the holy example of St. Joseph and invites the faithful to look to the powerful saint as a model of trust, openness, and love.

By Deborah Castellano Lubov

Saint Joseph offers a humble and holy example of how to trust and welcome God's plans for us...

Pope Francis offered this comforting reminder during his weekly General Audience in the Vatican on Wednesday.

Continuing his catechesis series on the Jubilee Year’s theme of “Jesus Christ our Hope,”  the Holy Father reflected this week on Saint Joseph.

READ POPE FRANCIS' FULL ADDRESS AT GENERAL AUDIENCE

The Pope recalled how Joseph's role in the fulfilment of God’s saving plan was made known to him in a dream, and how, despite some initial doubts, he, with great faith and trust, responds by taking Mary as his wife and making a home for the incarnate Son of God. 

'Do not be afraid'

As Joseph sleeps, the Pope recalled that he hears the words: 'Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary your wife into your home. For it is through the Holy Spirit that this child has been conceived in her. She will bear a son and you are to name him Jesus because he will save his people from their sins' (Mt 1:20-21).

Faced with this revelation, the Holy Father recalled that Joseph does not ask for further proof.

Trust in God

Rather, he trusts in God and accepts God’s dream for his life and that of his betrothed. "He thus," the Pope marveled, "enters into the grace of one who knows how to live the divine promise with faith, hope and love."

The Pope remembered how Joseph, in all of this, does not utter a word, but believes. "He does not express himself with 'idle words,'” Pope Francis underscored, "but with concrete deeds."

Joseph, the Holy Father remembered, trusts in God and obeys. 

With this in mind, Pope Francis concluded by inviting everyone to follow St. Joseph's example of welcoming Christ, and His plans for us, into our lives.

Tuesday, January 28, 2025

Saints for Wednesday

 

Sts. Sarbelius & Barbea





Two martyrs, brother and sister, who were put to death at Edessa during the persecutions of Emperor Trajan. Sarbelius, also called Sharbel, was a high priest at Edessa, in Mesopotamia. They were arrested for converting to the faith, and were tortured with red-hot irons prior to execution.

Most faith groups plan to continue helping refugees

 Faith groups say they'll help refugees despite Trump order. But they'll need help.

(RNS) — Trump's first term crippled much of the nation's resettlement infrastructure. Now a new executive order threatens to do the same.


Afghan refugees hold placards during a meeting to discuss their situation after President Donald Trump paused U.S. refugee programs, in Islamabad, Pakistan, Friday, Jan. 24, 2025. When the U.S. pulled out of Afghanistan in August 2021, it carried tens of thousands of Afghans to safety. But years later, many others are still waiting to be resettled. Those are Afghans who helped the war effort by working with the U.S. government and military or Afghan journalists and aid workers whose former work puts them at risk under the Taliban. (AP Photo/Anjum Naveed)


Bob SmietanaYonat Shimron, and Jack Jenkins

January 27, 2025

(RNS) — Jalil Dawood, pastor of the Arabic Church of Dallas, thanks God every day for the U.S. government’s refugee resettlement program, which helped him settle in the United States after he fled persecution during the Iran-Iraq War in the 1980s. Dawood, who said the program reflects the best of American values, believes he has President Ronald Reagan to thank for helping to change the course of his life.

“Ronald Reagan helped me make it to America,” Dawood said.

On Friday, (Jan. 24) the Trump administration halted the current resettlement program for refugees, who are legal immigrants who have been vetted by the government, many of them after awaiting resettlement for years. A previous order put a stop to all new arrivals of refugees for the next 90 days.

That is a mistake, said Dawood, an evangelical Christian who holds graduate degrees from Dallas Theological Seminary and Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. He voted for Donald Trump three times.

Dawood, founder of World Refugee Care, a small Texas nonprofit that provides spiritual and humanitarian support for refugees in the United States and the Middle East, said he understands the president’s concerns about national security. But the refugee resettlement program is not a danger, he said. Instead, it’s a way for the United States to help religious minorities and others facing persecution around the world.

“There a lot of persecuted Christians,” said Dawood, whose group does not receive any federal funds. Saying he believes the Bible tells Christians to be compassionate to refugees, he added, “There is a real need, and America needs to bless those people, bring them in or help them so they might start a new life,” he said. “God will bless America for that. And that’s my concern.”

Since the start of the federal fiscal year on Oct. 1, 2024, more than 32,000 refugees have arrived in the United States, as well as an additional 10,000 Afghans with special visas. They are all entitled to 90 days of housing and other basic support to help them resettle in the United States, find employment and enroll their children in school.

Danilo Zak, director of policy at Church World Service, a faith-based refugee resettlement agency that contracts with the federal government to resettle refugees, said that in the week before Trump’s inauguration alone, more than 5,000 refugees and 1,000 Afghans on Special Immigrant Visas were resettled across the country.

The administration then canceled flights that were supposed to bring in refugees before the Jan. 27 pause. Then it ordered a halt to all assistance for those already here.

“That’s just cruel and heartless,” said the Rev. Randy Carter, pastor of Temple Baptist Church in Durham, North Carolina, and the interim director of the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship of North Carolina’s Welcome Network, which provides temporary housing to refugees and others. “They’re telling them not to treat them anymore as clients, not to spend more to assist them getting resettled into the United States.”

Carter said he plans to encourage the 60 or so churches in the Welcome Network to make a grant to the refugee agencies it works with to supplement whatever funds the government may be abruptly ending.

Matt Soerens, vice president of advocacy and policy at World Relief, the humanitarian arm of the National Association of Evangelicals, said that faith-based refugee resettlement groups, including World Relief, had expected Trump to put limits on the number of refugees allowed in the United States, as he did in his first term. Those past  limits led resettlement groups to lay off staff and close offices, essentially crippling the public-private partnerships that make resettlement work in the United States.

Faith-based refugee agencies operating in the U.S. ramped up their efforts to assist as many refugees as possible before Trump returned to office, fearing he would eliminate the refugee program. But Soerens said World Relief and other groups were caught off guard on Friday by a federal memo instructing them to stop working with refugees already in the United States.   

World Relief and other refugee resettlement groups, including Catholic Charities, Church World Service and HIAS, receive federal funding to help refugees. They also raise funds from private donors to assist refugees and recruit volunteers from houses of worship.

That volunteer work will continue, said Soerens, who also said that volunteers and private donations will be needed now more than ever. “I don’t think that the government has any authority to tell us, or any church, don’t bring your refugee friends to the grocery store,” he said. “Or don’t help them go to their medical appointments.”

Ben Marsh, pastor of First Alliance Church in Winston-Salem, North Carolina, said his church has no plans to stop its volunteer work with refugees, which includes support groups for refugee families.

“We’re still going to meet with our families and love them,” he said.

What the federal government can do, Soerens said, is to cut off funding for the initial part of the resettlement process. That may mean refugees won’t be able to pay rent, and resettlement groups may have to lay off staff.

The president has unilateral authority to set the ceiling on refugee admissions each year. President Biden’s announced target was 125,000 refugees for the current fiscal year, as it was each of the three prior years.

Although refugee resettlement has been a controversial issue over the past decade and a half, World Relief’s work with refugee resettlement has been active ever since it started in the 1970s, when Grady and Evelyn Mangham, former Christian and Missionary Alliance missionaries to Vietnam, organized to assist refugees fleeing the fallout from the end of the Vietnam War. Church groups welcomed refugees to places such as Nashville, MinneapolisChicago — including the so-called Lost Boys of Sudan, young men who had been separated from their families during Sudan’s civil war — and other cities for years.

In 2007, Ann Corcoran, a conservative activist, began a blog called Refugee Resettlement Watch, which was critical of refugee resettlement groups. That blog spurred a large movement to ban Muslim refugees in particular, claiming they wanted to impose Shariah law in the U.S. That eventually morphed into a broader anti-immigrant movement that came to view faith groups that aid immigrants or refugees with suspicion.

That anti-immigrant sentiment became part of Trump’s pursuit of the White House, which peaked during the 2024 campaign with false claims about Haitian immigrants in Ohio eating local pets.

This past weekend, Vice President J.D. Vance accused Catholic bishops of putting their own financial concerns ahead of national security, citing the government funds Catholic Charities, the Catholic Church’s humanitarian arm, has received to assist migrants at the border.

“I think that the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops needs to actually look in the mirror a little bit and recognize that when they receive over $100 million to help resettle illegal immigrants, are they worried about humanitarian concerns?” he told “Meet the Press,” mischaracterizing refugees’ presence in the U.S. as illegal. “Or are they actually worried about their bottom line?”

Faith-based groups that resettle refugees —who are legal immigrants —have faced similar criticism.

Dawood said that Christian critics of the refugee program might want to go back to the Bible to read its passages about welcoming refugees, and, citing his hero, Ronald Reagan, said, “America is the city on a hill, and America is to be honored and blessed by accepting those refugees.”